posted 05-14-2001 08:24 PM                  

My question is.......do you ever see kit cars at these shows? I bet you do........they are not original classics either, so why are they there? What is the difference between a kit car and a new production car that looks like a classic? None that I can see..........

posted 05-14-2001 08:52 PM                  

I have a confirmation in my hand for registration the Good Guys 8th Summer Get Together June 2 and 3,, others have registered too.

I got this just two weeks ago. We have no problem entering our cars here in Northern Calif.

Even if,, (and I think we are being judged and awards presented), they don't classify our cars in years, more people look at ours then most others..

My car, and other Prowlers will be standing tall in June in Pleasanton.

posted 05-15-2001 01:10 AM                  

It maybe the event is open. I do know of only two that we are not allowed to enter. But to tell you the truth, I'm grateful to be allowed to enter as we do. I mean think about it, these cars are new. Even local clubs who sponsor events set year limits. I myself have put a lot into my car but its still new. I have no quarrel at all with the people who run those olds cars, I wish I had one..

Anyway, we are entered, we will see. I think the Good Guys events are a blast. I hope there are is not any confusion, I may call tomorrow to confirm once more..
Rich ,, Davies you say?? thats my last name,, wonder,,,,,,,, nahhh

posted 05-15-2001 03:42 PM                  

It's a shame, prowlers were only allowed to participate in all events when DC sponsored GoodGuys.

The East Coast Region GoodGuys would not allow the "modern" prowler to the Orlando show last month....I tried. Maybe the West Coast Region is different, and will allow...good luck JD.

posted 05-15-2001 04:34 PM                  

In the four events held at Pleasanton each year, Prowlers are allowed to enter in three. Autumn Get-Together, Summer Get-Together, and the All American Only Event. So that is three out of four at Pleasanton a year. Katie said at the other events, Del Mar, Sonoma, etc., we are allowed at approx. half of those.

So that is not to bad I figure, to be honest I respect how the people with the older rods feel.

It would be nice to have a new category for our cars, I guess all the others would be included too, Mustangs, Cameros, etc.

But hey, 3 out of 4 ain't bad folks.

posted 05-15-2001 05:28 PM                  

What's my point? We are part of the ORIGINAL "heart beat!" So these so-called Good Guy's can kiss my ^$#*&! They seem to be control freaks. I also remember when the UAW demanded that the Dodge Stealth NOT be used as the Indy Pace Car back in '91, forcing the Dodge Viper to come out early. All because of the Stealth wasn't American made. Now, both Oriental and European manuafacturer's are represented at Inday. Remember the Hemi being band from NASCAR. How about the Tucker?

You name it. When ever Chrysler or any other smaller automotive competitor does something note worthy, GM & Ford slams the door shut on the upstart idea's. The Good Guy's remind me of a bunch of politicians, or better yet, the SOB's that line the pockets of the politicians, paying (paving) their way to ultimate control.

Sorry for the diatribe. I alway's wanted to make a shirt or even paint the following on my Prowler: "In memory of the ORIGINAL Heart Beat!"

posted 05-15-2001 05:30 PM                  

I am not saying that we have not done modifications to are cars, both cosmetic and mechanical. Many of us have. I personally have spent several thousand dollars on modifications. But again, unless you point SOME of them out to people they have no clue. They think that is the way the car came. They haven't seen enough of them.

We are not the only ones that have modified newer cars. That is why we definately need a class for it. I would enter a show or two if I thought I actually had a chance to win. Without our own class we are just kiding ourselves. I know some of you have won local shows. I'm talking about these larger shows. Not the neighborhood car show. I know it's not always about winning but it wouldn't hurt to think I have a chance.

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Bob H.

posted 05-15-2001 06:03 PM                  

Bob, good points, and some answer themselves. I personally don't care if the judges check my car or not at the national events. Most do just buy em and drive our cars. No problem. I belong to a MOPAR club up here and they are very interested in the car.
It seems to me we are asking them to change their rules for us. I don't think that's the way to go. People everything is not for everyone. It's called life. A new class for newer cars would be good, but if not, no problem.
You know, the Vetts have their own car shows,, the mustangs do up here too,, as do the Cameros. Admittedly there are many more cars of that type out there. But,, why not a Chrysler show?? O I forgot ,,there is one in June here.
BTW, I believe a Prowler won Best of Show last year in the Good Guys Autumn event in 2000. Yes voted by the people, but isn't that enough??
Remember Rodney

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posted 05-15-2001 07:13 PM                  

I also totally understand the feelings of the guys who put a lot of time and money into restoring their old cars vs. buying one off the showroom floor like the Prowler. I dealt with a lot of that backlash when I worked the Prowler Road Show.

However, what about the guy who buys a restored hot rod that someone ELSE restored? He didn't do the work, then, either, so he has no right to complain. He, in essence, did the same thing we did......purchase it and maintain it.

The best solution, as John has suggested, would be to allow a class for our cars.

posted 05-16-2001 07:44 PM                  

If we are allowed at a GG's event why not every car in the world. I think there are more custom paint jobs and custom modifications in the PT Cruiser line than I have ever seen in the Prowler line. If every PT came to these shows there would be no room for anyone else.

At our local Half Moon Bay Airport Show, car, plane, and machines are all welcome. They allow anyone to show and shine. I have to admit there aren't many great cars to see. Nice planes and machines, but the cars aren't anything. It costs $20.00 to display your car including two people admission. If you just go to the show it is $10.00 each…. Same price so people just put there junk on display.

Long story short, I just can't see complaining about what cars should be allowed at a private car show. I do think the Prowler is better looking than anything else on the road, but some poor demented person may think their car is good looking too.

posted 05-17-2001 01:02 PM                  

It really sets me off to listen to people claim they drive a 32 when it there is nothing that came from a 32 on the car.
Last time I looked LT-4 Corvette engines were not around neither were Mustang II front ends and list goes on. Give me a break. If I could mount a 30 something on the Cat and claim it to be a 33 what ever then what? GoodGuys has lost sight of what car shows are about that is cool cars. Hope they enjoy the inbreeding. Just Stupid. I beleive the real reason the Cat is unwelcome is DC dropped sponsorship. Money talks BS walks.

Ghostrider