posted 04-13-2001 10:12 AM                  

Sitting back and reading the various posts, as many visitors and members do, I need to express concern over what I observe. Many registered members and non-members that simply monitor for information would simply go away without comment when faced with growing controversy.

It was my understanding that this board was established to escape exactly what seems to be occuring at the present time. What is going on here?

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THIS AREA IS FOR COMMITTEE PEOPLE ONLY, NOT ONLY ARE YOU A NOT COMMITTEE MEMBER YOU DONT EVEN OWN A PROWLER, THERE IS AN AREA FOR YOU TO COMMENT IN, GO THERE.

IF MY MEMORY SERVES ME CORRECTLY, YOU ARE ON PROBATION TO BE ABLE TO POST ON THIS BOARD. IT IS A PRIVILEGE NOT A RIGHT TO POST HERE.

IF YOU WISH TO COMMENT GO TO THE SUGGESTED AREA. THIS IS YOUR FINALLY WARNING AND YOU WILL BE ON THE BLACK LIST AGAIN ALL BY YOURSELF

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Since when is it a privilege and not a RIGHT (as a public forum) to post on this board? Blacklisting? There was also an apology to the person this was directed to, but the point is............should it ever have been said in the first place? Is this site being monitored and decisions being made as to who is "given" the right to post? I think we all hope not.

If memory serves me correctly, this board was graciously provided by Mike K. and Tony Goertz for the enjoyment of all, which was simply missing from the other site. It has grown to over 500 registered members (and who knows how many observers). It has conducted a number of successful events with many others planned and proposed for the future.

Is it time for everyone to take a deep breath of fresh air and re-direct the efforts and comments back to unifying broad-based subjects?

The club is reaching the point where certain people are beginning to pay attention to it. These people make the decisions as to whether or not to support club activities. It has been together for less than a year and had to establish a presence and credibility before any thought could be given to broader support. Let's not get off the track and destroy the progress that has already been made.

Just my opinion, but the path being taken appears to be a formula destined for possible disaster. If this means I am blacklisted, please advise how I will know and whether or not I have the privilege to post my opinions.

RPL

posted 04-13-2001 10:41 AM                  

Words of wisdom.

You are correct when you say that this board was created to escape censorship and bullying that was taking place on the previous site.
Many thanks to Tony Goertz and Mike Krehel for giving me a place to interact with others having the same interests as myself.

My hope is that all involved in the POA will try to keep in mind the fact that WE are the POA. WE are all equal and WE are the people who will determine the direction WE take.

The POA should not be about personal agendas!

Please let's keep it friendly, informative and fun! If not, I'll be the first one out the door and I'm sure many others will follow me.

posted 04-13-2001 10:48 AM                  

Well that probably wasn't the best reply by me but I did not want to delete it. I feel the same way as all the above. I hope everything will smooth out and we get back to enjoying our cars...

It's summertime people,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, go out and cruise !!!

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posted 04-13-2001 11:24 AM                    

As you may or may not know, I was one of the catalysts for Mike taking this HUGE step and monumentous task of creating a place where fellow Prowler owners could chat, discuss and even argue openly without censorship on any and ALL topics. I was repeatedly banned, black listed and threatened by the folks at the PPC web site. Heck, I even had to resort to alias' (Moe, Larry, Curly, Barny & my favorite: Otis) just to participate in worthwhile discussions. Since the creation of the POA, I have never looked back - figure it is THEIR loss and NOT mine.

I did not see the post you reference, but can only assume it was under this new PODRA heading. I don't even look there. Not a racer, and not interested in getting all worked up over who has the most money to dump into a Hot Rod and turn it into a Race Car. By no means is this meant to offend anyone, I own a different car for the purpose of speed and handling, and my Prowler was purchased for pure "look at me" cruising enjoyment. But, to each their own and more power to everyone who has been fortunate to own a Prowler.

Your post was very timely, as even I have felt attacked on this board, as well, but have just faded back into the wood work and re-emerged only when the oppinionated ones (like myself) have turned their attention to criticizing someone else.

All in all, the POA site is EXCEPTIONAL and a wonderful haven for all us car enthusiasts ... and again, my driving gloves off to Mr. Krehel and Mr. Goetz for their mutual cooperation and continued support and fundng of this FREE experience for us all.

My moto has always been; Differet strokes for different folks ... I hope everyone has a safe and reflective Easter weekend ...

Prowl On !!

posted 04-13-2001 11:40 AM                  

"Ditto" (as JD in a cute silver Prowler would say - sorry JD, I just had to say it! )

posted 04-13-2001 11:52 AM                  

I believe that we all have our Prowlers because WE wanted them. What were the reasons you purchased your Prowler?

1. It was the coolest looking car around
2. It is a blast to drive.........whether you are cruising or racing
3. It makes you smile
4. It makes everyone else smile
5. It is a great stress-reliever
6. It is a unique, limited production car
7. It is an attention-getter
8. It is just plain FUN
9. It can be modified to make it uniquely yours and different from all others
10. Meeting new people and making lasting friendships

Please, let us not lose sight of the original purpose for the Prowler Owners Association and this board. This group was started so that we could meet other Prowler owners, share information, stories, opinions, laughter and humor without fear of censorship and repercussion. It was to provide an opportunity to organize small and large events for the purpose of meeting other owners and enjoying the car. We should be trying to inspire other people to purchase a cat and join in the fun whether it be cruising or racing!!! It is why we have no officers, etc. No one person or persons opinions are more important than anyone elses, nor should they be. Nor do we want to alienate those people who frequent this board whether they have a Prowler or not. Having a Prowler is not a requirement to participate on this board.

Come on, everyone, let's get back to the business at hand.......having too much fun with the coolest car on earth and the people who own them!!!

Just my thoughts and thank you for a place to voice them!

posted 04-13-2001 12:06 PM                  

CUTE???????????

CUTE????????????????????

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Well it is kinda, aint it ??

posted 04-13-2001 12:33 PM                  

There ya go JD, getting in touch with your "softer" side ... ((( hehehe, LOL )))

posted 04-13-2001 04:37 PM                  

I agree CJ. Spent about an hour on the phone today with Alex from colorado who posted yesterday about buying a new sparkle orange. Last time we talked he was headed to the dealer to pick up his new car. Look forward to meeting him and sharing any tips and info. He commented he couldn't believe the response he recieved from everyone on the site.
I say everyone keep up the fun, laughter (many times at our own expense) and sharing info.

posted 04-13-2001 06:04 PM                  

I formed the POA to be fun. This topic is no longer in the best interest of anyone. I am saddened by the controversy and discontent that has surrounded this issue. In Gary's defense, he tried to get everyone that was interested in drag racing to agree upon some guidelines that would make it fair for everyone and would take away any arguments. It obviously is not working.

Effective today, I am removing the PODRA forums due to lack of interest and for the betterment of all involved. Let's drop this subject for now and move on. Please feel free to email me your comments, in the mean time let's get back to having fun!!!!!