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Glenn POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Melbourne, Fl |
posted 02-15-2001 01:49 PM
Surfing the web, and found this site for Prowler tuner. Thought everyone might be interested. http://www.finishlineperf.com/prowler.htm Glenn
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dpena POA Site Supporter Administrating Kat Visit Dan's Prowler Excitement Personal ScrapBook From:San Jose Ca Santa Clara |
posted 02-15-2001 02:14 PM
I like this! -13 1/2" FRONT BRAKE UPGRADES Thanks for the heads up! |
butchcee POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Lake Ariel, Pa. |
posted 02-15-2001 02:18 PM
Wow-thats an alternative to all the high price stuff we have seen-and close to me. Think I'm gonna call Thank you much ------------------ This message has been edited by butchcee on 02-15-2001 at 02:19 PM |
jd2ksilver POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Mt. View, CA |
posted 02-15-2001 02:35 PM
Butchee,, keep us posted.. cam work,,hmmm seems inexpensive |
Kenny Miles Prowler Newbie From: |
posted 02-15-2001 02:59 PM
Buyer Be Ware, If this is Matt Antonelli of North Jersey Racing, then this is the guy that "stiffed" a couple of people on Whipple superchargers that never worked properly. This message has been edited by Kenny Miles on 02-15-2001 at 03:00 PM |
butchcee POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Lake Ariel, Pa. |
posted 02-15-2001 05:01 PM
Thanks for the info Ken and welcome. I sent an E-mail to these guys describing my needs. Let's see if they answer. If not, I'll get on the horn tomorrow. I'll post the results of the conversation. ------------------ |
Gary C POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:San Diego Area |
posted 02-15-2001 06:09 PM
I saw it a couple of weeks ago, thanks for the tip. ------------------ |
butchcee POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Lake Ariel, Pa. |
posted 02-15-2001 06:59 PM
This is a reply I received from Finish Line. BTW, these times must have been without the gearset
I would more than happy to install the twin turbo set up. The only catch to
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jd2ksilver POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Mt. View, CA |
posted 02-15-2001 07:33 PM
Interesting Butchee,, keep on it,, thanks for your work. |
butchcee POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Lake Ariel, Pa. |
posted 02-16-2001 07:33 AM
Gonna call the guy today. What's that Gary said- SCMHFDYWTG? gotta check my wallet first! Hey Glenn, if this works out, I owe you a spaghetti dinner ------------------ This message has been edited by butchcee on 02-16-2001 at 07:35 AM |
butchcee POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Lake Ariel, Pa. |
posted 02-16-2001 12:10 PM
OK, here's what I found out.This in fact is Matt Antonelli that Ken Miles had mentioned. He also said he had dealings with our benefactor Mike K. No details were given, or requested by myself. He started to tell me about some early installations using the Whipple blowers and some problems his customers had.I was convinced that any problems were not all his fault. He said that while the Whipple was good and reliable, and made boost from idle,the noise from the unit did not suit a car like our cat-lots of blower noise, maybe equal to a gear drive for a cam. His shop is 4k sq feet and he works alone.Head work is done in house. We discused head work to include larger valves, and flow work. Cams will be reground, with increase in lift and duration. The blower might be a Vortech. There will be a totally different management system for the engine. We discussed headers. Rear wheel HP will be estimated at close to 400. He has no chassis Dyno, but has access to one. Turn around is aprox 2 weeks or less once all the parts are in house. The 13 second 361 RW HP car was basically a stock motor( no head or cam work) with the Whipple at about 6-7 lbs boost and a management system. Whipple inlet temps run 100 deg cooler then the centrifugal blowers. I await a call back Monday to see what all this good stuff will cost. Gut feeling is that this guy is on the level, and is capable of 1st rate work. Thats all I got for now!! ------------------ This message has been edited by butchcee on 02-16-2001 at 02:13 PM |
Glenn POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Melbourne, Fl |
posted 02-16-2001 01:18 PM
"Hey Glenn, if this works out, I owe you a spaghetti dinner" No problem Butchcee, skip the spaghetti, I just want the fastest cat to be Yellow. Glad to help out, and good luck. Glenn ------------------ |
WPG Prowler Junkie From:Orlando, Florida |
posted 02-16-2001 01:50 PM
Glenn, Does this mean that he has a whipple blower for the Prowler and is this what you are having installed? You mentioned that there was noise like a cam gear. I would be willing to live with that for a whipple charger. I was also interested in having cam work done. Please post back with updates as you get them. Also, what is he charging for the whipple chargers? Thanks. Bill Gallagher |
butchcee POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Lake Ariel, Pa. |
posted 02-16-2001 02:12 PM
Bill, he has installed 3 or 4 Prowler systems using the Whipple with success. All mounting hardware was made in house. He suggested the Vortech blower as an alternative to the Whipple. That blower whine is fine for a short run, but for the long haul, I bet it can be annoying. This will be his first Prowler install using the Vortech if I decide to go that way. I have no pricing yet as many of the choices will blend with the other. ------------------ |
Gary C POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:San Diego Area |
posted 02-17-2001 05:11 PM
3 or 4 installs, hhhhhmmmmmmmmmm???????? If he has done 3 or 4 installs, you would think you would remember a number that low, Dave at Paxton could say aaaaaaaaaa 40 or 41. Paxton, has sold over 40 hhhhhmmmmmmmmmm they work. The whipple is a screeching noisy piece of dodoooo. You would burn out in less than 5 miles. I think Mike K. tried to make this deal work and had no success.
Mike K. Told me about this site a month ago, I looked around and did't get a warm and fuzzy feeling.
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butchcee POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Lake Ariel, Pa. |
posted 02-17-2001 07:46 PM
Gary, the fuzziness was on my part-3 was the number. Let me throw the same thing back at you-you THINK Mike tried to make the deal work? what does that mean? Did he or didn't he? He's closer to you then me-find out and report facts. Guess what, thats what the guy said-too noisy-lets use the Vortech. The whipple would burn out in less then 5 miles-get real Gary-what do you base this on? Notice I never mentioned Paxton products by name, and this product was also discussed with a different management system. I wouldn't jump into this project without contacting past installation owners and question their findings. Your nose must be different then mine, because I didn't get any bad vibes. BTW, did you even talk to the man or have you become clairvoyant? Nothing ventured nothing gained I say and I always marched to my own beat.If I visit his shop and talk to and view other installations and I dont like it, I'll say later, and move on. ------------------ This message has been edited by butchcee on 02-17-2001 at 07:47 PM |
butchcee POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Lake Ariel, Pa. |
posted 02-17-2001 08:14 PM
This is a post off the whipple site: Mike Pyle
Pyle P.S. Dustin Whipple did a great job of answering the questions I had during the install. "Whipples Rule" ------------------ |
butchcee POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Lake Ariel, Pa. |
posted 02-17-2001 08:16 PM
And another: Stephen
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butchcee POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Lake Ariel, Pa. |
posted 02-17-2001 08:20 PM
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Mike Krehel POA Site Supporter The World's Quickest Prowler (11.65 sec) and Administrating Kat Personal ScrapBook From:United States |
posted 02-17-2001 08:43 PM
If this really is Matt Antonelli of North Jersey Racing I can say that I had a less than pleasant experience with him and lost close to $12,000.00 in the process. I still have all the parts from the supercharger sitting in my garage which Matt promised to buy back from me, but has yet to fulfill his promise. If anyone would like the details, please feel free to contact me by email. ------------------ |
Mike Krehel POA Site Supporter The World's Quickest Prowler (11.65 sec) and Administrating Kat Personal ScrapBook From:United States |
posted 02-17-2001 09:12 PM
Butchee, Whipple makes some fine superchargers and when the system is designed properly I'm sure that it performs great. I don't think that Gary is saying that Whipple makes a crummy supercharger, but 3lbs of boost at idle is not a reasonable design nor is an incessant screeching noise from an overtaxed bypass valve acceptable. The kit that was installed on my car was not designed by Whipple, it was designed by Matt Antonelli. If the system works so well, then why have we not heard rave reviews from a single person that has had a successfull installation of his system? ------------------ |
butchcee POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Lake Ariel, Pa. |
posted 02-17-2001 09:22 PM
Thanks Mike. I'm glad you came forward. I'll call you tomorrow and get the details. ------------------ This message has been edited by butchcee on 02-17-2001 at 09:25 PM |
Gary C POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:San Diego Area |
posted 02-17-2001 09:54 PM
Clairvoyant, Unfortunately yes, . THe Whipple IS A SCREAMER. A friend of mine put it on his boat, so to make a long story short and after a long boating weekend he took it off. The wife, kids and himself agreed that the noise was unbearable, That was many years ago, maybe they have improved. I really feel sorry for Mike, making a huge effort on this part and not being happy with the final result. Paxton has the best system for the buck.
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ed monahan POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Cincinnati, Oh, USA |
posted 02-18-2001 06:17 AM
I recall Mr. Whipple advertising locally for P & G and he had fine toilet paper. |
butchcee POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Lake Ariel, Pa. |
posted 02-18-2001 07:47 AM
Funny Ed To be Continued: ------------------ |
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