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fortknox82 Prowler Junkie From:Boynton Beach, FL 33436 |
posted 02-01-2001 04:34 PM
I just wanted to get everyones opinion on the cost of items for the prowler. I mean....everything is sooooo god damn expensive...i mean...i know it is limited production but there is no reason to have to mark up an item 30 times what its worth. For the price of most items for a prowler i could probably find someone to custom make it for me cheaper. I mean things like...the rear end gears....2 sprockets and a chain.....and they want $2200...give me a break...should be no more than maybe $500....then things like....bumper covers.....$600 painted.....a piece of colored plastic.....should only be like $200....i think that these prices are very unfair to the owners who want to make the car faster or look better but dont have the money growing on a tree. I mean...i make a good amount of money but...i mean...i would have to save every cent for one year just to be able to afford just buying the supercharger and that is me putting it on myself.....i think that is bad....i should only have to save half a year to get something like that...i mean...the most expensive superchargers are maybe $4000....and those are intercooled 70% - 80% increase....there is no difference between those superchargers and the ones made for a prowler.....maybe just that the bracket is bigger...and you get a few more accessories. What do you guys think...i mean...i see someone like John Davies or Dan Pena playing with their prowlers and i think about totaling the price up and its probably somewhere around $15000 - $20000 wrapped up in each. I would just like to see prices come down at least a quarter of what they are now...just so that the less fortunate owners can afford some goodies too...... What do you all think? ------------------ !!++Youngest Driving Prowler Owner++!! -Amsoil Engine and Tranny Fluid |
Gary C POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:San Diego Area |
posted 02-01-2001 05:56 PM
Well, This is the problem, when everything is said and done we might have 10000 Prowlers out there. Most people just drive and enjoy the Coolest car ever built for the road. I think Paxton has sold 40 kits. You add them together and average that gets about 50 Kats. That is not a very high percentage of people that want to go faster. 00.5% To do a very very small run of any product the costs are very very very much higher, much less the research and development(sp)cost. If it was a common product for like a chevy truck and there are 10 million of them on the road the Paxton is around 2600 bucks(i think that's what they charge)because they are going to sell a couple of thousand of them and not 40. I really think we very lucky to have Paxton and ProwlerPros and all the other aftermarket manufacturers taking the time and money to take a huge gamble for Very small group of cars. I would have to say all the people involved with after market Prowler stuff are making a little money but are not by no means getting rich. One more thing, when they stop production of the Prowler what are all manufactures going to do? Their sales will slowly but surely come to a screeching stop. Have a good day and hope to meet you at one of these large events. BTW, speed cost money how fast do you want to go? With a Prowler it is going to cost way more if you are going to run with THE BIG DOGS, ARF. ------------------ |
Marc-Colo-99 POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Aurora, Colorado |
posted 02-01-2001 06:31 PM
Well put Gary. ------------------ |
dpena POA Site Supporter Administrating Kat Visit Dan's Prowler Excitement Personal ScrapBook From:San Jose Ca Santa Clara |
posted 02-01-2001 06:32 PM
That is why I'm thinking on declaring myself the next poorest Prowler owner in the Northern Bay! Who is the Prowler enthusiasts who declares himself the poorest Prowler owner? Is that JT? Having an awesome time blowing it all though! Good one Gary!
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NITEMAN POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Mechanicsville, Md, USA |
posted 02-01-2001 07:09 PM
Jason, Our Prowler is completely stock. The first real trip of any length that we took we were confronted with a Porsche Boxster and ten Corvettes from the Chesapeake Corvette Club. We were at a rest area in Skyline drive. As I answered the usual questions from several people and my wife assisted them with photos while they posed by the Cat, all of the Vette owners and the Porsche owner came over to gawk at Mr. Prowler. I had already won, without turning the key. The Prowler was meant to steal attention, break necks, etc. If you have the money to make it faster that's great. I don't but in 4&1/2 years we won't have a Prowler payment and we are then going to look for a Viper. Then we can enjoy littering the countryside with other vehicles doors! |
Richard Jackson POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Fairfield, Ohio |
posted 02-01-2001 07:37 PM
There is an old saying in the retail world and it certainly applies to the captive audience of Prowler owners... Charge whatever the traffic bears. Richard ------------------ |
butchcee POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Lake Ariel, Pa. |
posted 02-01-2001 07:38 PM
Hang in there Jason. Bet you have the coolest car in Brown's Mills! Take a chance for the Texas get~together and maybe you can save some $ on that gear purchase. I agree that the aftermarket stuff is way too expensive, but Gary hit the nail right on the head. We're lucky to have anything at all for the car as the engine is used NOWHERE else but in the Prowler and passenger cars, and none of those cars race~~~~~~~till now! This appears to be the first year serious performance gains will be seen. Maybe as people step up, you can get deals on used things like exhaust, Mac intake , etc. ------------------ |
tangled up in BLUE POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:New Castle, Ind |
posted 02-01-2001 07:40 PM
FT KNOX.... ........another angle on this, how many people your age, or any age, even own a Prowler or could ever afford one....count yourself lucky that you have one in your garage at all....I somewhat feel the same about the parts pricing, I am currently on my 7th Prowler and my 3rd Viper...EVERYTHING for a Viper is also VERY PRICEY.....But I figure I an not going to let it ruin my fun....Corvette parts, DITTO....In Indiana even license plates are that way...just paid $780 for plates today for a car that rarely uses the roads, the Viper.......enjoy life, buy what you can or want, and remember, it's not a contest to see if you can spend as much as the next guy...live at your own pace...if you have 1 million, someone else has 3 million etc etc etc ........................and remember some of us would trade everything we own to have your youth again....so, just be happy in life, count your blessings and be happy everyday you wake up....there are many people living their last day today and don't even know it.... ------------------ |
MidlifeProwler Prowler Junkie From:Silver Spring, Maryland USA |
posted 02-01-2001 07:43 PM
Jason, These people are the pioneers of these products for the one of the most desirable automobiles in the world. You will not see any relief from the astronomical prices until someone else comes in and compete for their share in the market place. Just remember, you get what you paid, so don't be fooled by cheaper products that can be detrimental to one of your most cherished possessions. I wholeheartedly agree with "tangle up in Blue". I bought the Prowler to enjoy life with because I like many others This message has been edited by MidlifeProwler on 02-01-2001 at 07:54 PM |
Dave Mills POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Johnstown, PA, USA |
posted 02-01-2001 08:08 PM
The only changes I have made to the Cat have been cosmetic. I am perfectly content to drive the car the way it is. If some people want to make the Cat go faster, good for them. There will always be someone out there to manufacture the products....as long as someone else is willing to buy. Nothing is cheap in the car collector market. That's the way it is, that's the way it will always be. ------------------ |
ALLEY CAT POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:mesa, az, USA |
posted 02-01-2001 08:56 PM
Gheeeeezzz, I'm speechless! You guys said it all before me........ Good job! Jason, I'll trade my Prowler for your youth. Well maybe Ed's Prowler for your youth ------------------ |
CJ POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Rochester Hills, MI USA |
posted 02-01-2001 09:19 PM
Jason, I like my cat just the way it is.....stock! I don't need to go fast.....that's not why I got mine. I got it to cruise in and it gives me great pleasure to drive it around leisurely and enjoy the view!!! |
ed monahan POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Cincinnati, Oh, USA |
posted 02-01-2001 10:57 PM
I don't want my youth back. I was poor and still had to work. Now I am still poor but don't have to work or "have to do" anything else. Life is good at this point. When I was young, there were no Prowlers or any other production car that is anywhere in its league. NONE, NEVER. There have been neat cars, but nothing like this Produced for the masses. Don't worry, be happy. Don't want what everybody else has, be happy you have what you have. |
NightProwler Prowler Junkie From:Chicago |
posted 02-02-2001 09:29 AM
Tangled up in Blue and Ed Monahan- Thumbs Up on your attitides. I agree. BTW, I dont care that Prowler Pro gears are expensive-I just wish they were only usuriously expensive-not "take a deep breath, bend over, here it comes" expensive. OK Prowler Pro-its time to go for mass production-achieve economies of scale and all that stuff------puulllleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaasssssssssssseeeeeeeee. ------------------ This message has been edited by NightProwler on 02-02-2001 at 03:44 PM |
FatManInTheBathTub Prowler Junkie From:Palm Coast, FL. |
posted 02-02-2001 10:24 AM
Hey now, you need to buy a chevy 350 and you can put small amounts of bucks in it and go very fast.............you'll just have to find car to hold it........... |
BeWare POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Acworth , Georgia , USA |
posted 02-02-2001 11:13 AM
This made me start thinking, we only have 405 Members registered on this sight, compared to just over 8000 Prowlers sold through 12/31. I wonder how many of the other 7500 Prowler Owners are Internet active and if they even know about the Paxton SC or the Prowler Pro Gears or any other Prowler aftermarket items for that matter. Maybe if there was a way to get this information out to all owners the sales volumes could be increased significantly enough to reduce the price of these ietms. Rich Ware ------------------ |
butchcee POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Lake Ariel, Pa. |
posted 02-02-2001 11:16 AM
good idea Fat Man. You got the car-go for it. Find a nice aluminum smallblock and kick butt. ------------------ |
Todd Bertrang unregistered Admin Use |
posted 02-02-2001 02:48 PM
Very true Rich, maybe all those that produce Prowler products should get together with a mass Prowler mailing to the owners of the cars along with our internet address ------------------ |
WildCat POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:North Louisville, Indiana, USA |
posted 02-02-2001 03:56 PM
Jason, Your time will come. I would like to see the cost for the gears less. But I doubt to many 300 M owners would want to buy a set for their car. Supply and demand For the money I would say the gear set is the best performance upgrade for the money. I had fast cars in my younger days, but I have yet to have had a car that attacts as much attention as the Prowler sitting still. When I was your age I had a `72 Challenger 340 4 speed and a `71 `Cuda 383 convertible, PLEASE KICK ME NOW for sell convertible If you want FAST you bought the wrong car. It runs good stock. I still have not done any mods to the drivetrain to make it faster. I am building another car to go fast in, but it is still going to be a cruiser. The others are right about speed, HOW FAST CAN YOU AFFORD is the question. My motor for my Dart will end up costing me about 3 grand and should be able to run in mid 13's if I wanted to try and get the most out of it. Not bad for a cruiser. One of the BADDEST cars to come out of the Detroit factory's was the `70 HEMI `CUDA. The 1/4 mile time on a stock Hemi Cuda was 14 sec. flat. But with a set of slicks the same car ran in th 12's. The motor was about $600 option. Sounds cheap HUH but in 1970 that was alot of money. Even then SPEED COST $$$$$$.
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Dave Mills POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Johnstown, PA, USA |
posted 02-02-2001 05:17 PM
Larry: In 1975 I traded my 1971 Duster 340 on a new Duster. My wife wanted a sunroof, I wanted the 360 v-8. We got the sunroof cause we couldn't afford the engine upgrade and the sunroof. That car, out the door was $4781.90. Boy, how times have changed! I still have the '75 and man do I wish I had kept the '71. That engine upgrade was only a couple hundred dollars. Speed has always cost more. ------------------ |
Pirana Prowler Junkie From:The Amazon River @ DFW |
posted 02-02-2001 07:22 PM
I guess I'll give my 2cents. I have enjoyed my Prowler for over a year now, I wish I could have bought some of the accesories, bumper removal kits, hid lights, rear wing, chrome cover, etc. As of today, the only product I have purchased is the front bra, and that is for protection. I cannot afford anything else for now. I wish the prices where lower, but I understand the game and understand that I have step into the big boys game. I challenge JT for the poorest Prowler owner title ------------------ |
CJ POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Rochester Hills, MI USA |
posted 02-02-2001 07:39 PM
Okay, guys, how technical do we want to get about this? I own a Prowler and I don't even have a job anymore.....does that make me the poorest owner????? |
ed monahan POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Cincinnati, Oh, USA |
posted 02-03-2001 12:59 AM
A little history lesson and a lesson for life. In 1923 who was President of the largest steel Co? President of Bank International Settlement? You would think these guys were the leaders of the country and very successful and wealthy. The Pres. of the largest Steel Co was Chas. Schwab and he died a pauper. The Pres. of the largest Gas Co was Edward Hopson, who went insane. The Pres of the NYSE was Richard Whitney and he died at home after being released from prison, due to health problems. The greatest wheat speculator, Arthur Cooger, died penniless, abroad. The pres. of Bank Inter. shot himself. The great bear of Wall st. Casabee Ivermore, died of suicide. Gene Sarazan won the US Open and PGA championship and died in 1999 at the age of 95. He played golf until he was 92 and died solvent. The moral of the story is quit worrying so much about business and wealth and start Prowling (or playing golf). |
Todd Bertrang unregistered Personal ScrapBook Admin Use |
posted 02-03-2001 01:14 AM
and let us hope another Black Tuesday is not around the corner... which is what happened to those who had wealth in 1923. ------------------ |
Dave Mills POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Johnstown, PA, USA |
posted 02-03-2001 08:12 AM
Ed: I agree with your comments. I just haven't figured out how to play with cars all the time and not work. ------------------ |
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