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Gary C


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posted 10-08-2000 12:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gary C     send a private message to Gary C   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Gary C
Fatmaninthetub says there is supposed to be a crate motor option for the Prowler in the New Brochure, WOW.
If this is true I am going to rethink the Paxton deal.
Wonder what they are going to do about the cooling problem?

CJ, when you read this could you please do some homework on this subject.

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posted 10-08-2000 12:17 AM           send a private message to Gary C   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by paulr
I thought I would never want to alter my car, but that would definitely raise my brows. CJ- please tell us more.
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Yes, I need the 360 cid (with wedge heads of course!)to improve the power and kick ars ability of my prowler...........do tell us about this option CJ.....................
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posted 10-08-2000 09:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for John Ross     send a private message to John Ross   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by John Ross
Gary C , How can I get a copy of this New Brochure. If this doe's happen there is only one thing left to figure out . A 4 speed tranny.

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John R. - Maybe a 5 or 6 speed? Need more gears for the Salt River Canyon next year!
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360 360 360 360 360 360 360 360 360 360
I hope that this is not just a trick or a joke !
We need more details !!!!
If it is true does anyone want to buy a slightly used V6
It has only been red lined ah a few times

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posted 10-08-2000 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gary C     send a private message to Gary C   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Gary C
I hope but I don't think it is true maybe our dreams will come true.
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I sure don't want to put any water on the 360 fire, but I have looked at my 2001 brouchure and find not a word about any V-8 option
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Of course maybe there's a 2nd edition 2001 brouchure?????? A mid year option change????? But it seems like someone would have heard a leak or two before the fact.
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posted 10-08-2000 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CJ     send a private message to CJ   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by CJ
The 2001 brochures states, "From the get-go......For example, the level of creature comfort and standard equipment we had envisioned meant a large cockpit(for a rod), roughly a third of the frame's length, which for all practical purposes eliminated that old favorite, the ludicrously low-tech iron block V8. In a way, that was a shame, because if any carmaker anywhere produces superb elephant engines, we do with our vast experience in huge-displacement HEMI* and wedge engines (not to mention our equally respected, high-revving 360* cubic-inch smallblock V8). Once that decision was made, however, things began to fall into place. Under development at the time, was our superb, all-aluminum, fuel-injected, single overhead cam, 24-valve, 3.5-liter V6......

The asterisk * note reads: Available in crates over Mopar parts counters.

I was not able to find anywhere in the brochure any reference to a conversion kit for Prowler. The reference was that Hemi and 360 crate motors are available. Moving from a crate motor to a 50 states legal conversion is an entirely different matter.

Sorry, guys!!

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I just had it bust. I finally got excited about more POWER and sllllammmm goes the door.
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Tell me it isn't soooooo!
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posted 10-08-2000 08:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CJ     send a private message to CJ   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by CJ
Sorry, guys.....I suppose I could be wrong, but it doesn't seem to me that the door was ever open!
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Hey now......I had read a thread on one of these sites saying there is a ad or something stating a 360 with a * below saying Crate Only. Looks like whatever CJ posted sounds very simular to what the thread stated. Where did this come from CJ?
Anyway, isn't there someone at DC that knows the answer to this all important question???
Post the phone number and I will call if anyone knows.
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I could forsee DC putting the 360 v-8 in the 2002 Chrysler Prowler. Kind of a acceptable way to promote the name cross-over change (The ALL new Chrysler Prowler), now available with high reving V-8 power! And a way to entice us to sell our cats and buy new ones. Marketing = getting the customer to buy what you want to sell them! Ya all come back now!

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I posed this question to a an Engineer at D/C that I have been corresponding with on AOL. He works on the Prowler. Here is his response: "There are no plans for a 360 Prowler as original equipment or any other.

If someone besides Mother Mopar is working on a package, good luck ! I hope it works. BUT, keep in mind all the wonderful vehicle dynamics like handling and braking will be messed up by the much heavier V-8, and that the 360 had better belt out at least the 250 horsepower the factory V-6 puts out.

The weak link is still the transmission when you put that much engine output. At least this is my opinion."

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When I worked the Prowler display that my company did for DC, the most recurring question was, "Are they ever going to put in a V8?" The answer I was always given by the engineers was "No, because with the V6, the trans was already at it's torque capacity and it couldn't handle a bigger engine."
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Originally posted by Nyle Wing:
360 360 360 360 360 360 360 360 360 360
I hope that this is not just a trick or a joke !
We need more details !!!!
If it is true does anyone want to buy a slightly used V6
It has only been red lined ah a few times


It's not a trick or a joke. I mentioned it about 2 months ago after I saw it in a Prowler (yes, Prowler) brochure I bought on the net. Didn't say it was an option, it was talking about Mopar performance and said this was available only in crate form.


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quote:
Originally posted by Dave Mills:
If someone besides Mother Mopar is working on a package, good luck ! I hope it works. BUT, keep in mind all the wonderful vehicle dynamics like handling and braking will be messed up by the much heavier V-8, and that the 360 had better belt out at least the 250 horsepower the factory V-6 puts out.


Keep in mind too the facts/stats of the Howler with the V-8 and stick.
It would cost more, weigh more yet,
it had 3 less horsepower, it's 0-60 time was higher then the Prowler.
My question would be why would you want the extra weight, extra cost and a stock Prowler would beat you. Yes, there may be more torque but who is going to haul a 10,000 lbs. boat with their Prowler?


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If the trans is already at its peak, why doesn't it spit its guts with the Paxton, or nitrous? I'm sure there is a pretty big safety margin built in. Seems like I read a post about somebody neutral dropping the car a while back. The trans couldn't take much of this if it was at it's limits.
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posted 10-09-2000 12:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CJ     send a private message to CJ   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by CJ
Butchee - Just relaying what I was told. Can't tell you why with re: to Paxton, etc. But my guess is that any modifications are at your own risk and not covered under warranty by DC, also.
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CJ-understood-And no jab at you! The same trans moves a much heavier car (Chrysler line), and has to hold up-so with the lighter load of the Prowler, one would think there would be more longevity-of course we drive the car harder-which will bring me to a new post topic!!
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Butchee - no jab taken. It's just what they told me and I can't really answer your question. I'll try to get a better answer for you......
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Butchee - Bob is sitting in the background watching, listening and waiting to see who is going to be the first to puke the transaxel all over the highway! He has calls in to Paxton, Hennessey, and SoCal Speed Shop to let him know when, not if, the transaxel breaks! So far so good..........

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