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Mike Krehel POA Site Supporter The World's Quickest Prowler (11.65 sec) and Administrating Kat Personal ScrapBook From:United States |
posted 09-27-2000 01:33 PM
I've heard that a few people were having problems with the Paxton supercharger causing the car to run hot. I've not experienced this problem at all and don't understand why some of the converted cars overheat while others don't. I've also heard that there is a new larger capacity aftermarket radiator in the works for the Prowler. Please share your experiences and thoughts on this subject. ------------------ |
Gary C POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:San Diego Area |
posted 09-27-2000 01:36 PM
I was looking at the Paxton install for Dpena I noticed they relocated the power steering tank in front of the radiator, I think this is one of the problem of some of the guys having overheating problem. Looks to me a 1/3 of the radiator is blocked. Not a good deal. |
jd2ksilver POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Mt. View, CA |
posted 09-27-2000 01:47 PM
Mike here goes. Dan Pena and I have superchargers up in Northern California area. We both have heat issues. Have not kept it much of a secret but have not advertised it either. We have been in contact with Paxton for quite awhile about this. The car puts out around 300hp at high RPMS. The heat has to go somewhere. I have appox 4000 miles on my sc, Dan and I run our cars regularly, and hard at times, we paid to go fast and are having tons of fun doing so. But the car heats up. Twice ran out the overflow before I could get it to the side of the road, and this is with heater on when needed. ------------------ [This message has been edited by jd2ksilver (edited 09-27-2000).] |
Gary C POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:San Diego Area |
posted 09-27-2000 01:52 PM
Is there any way to move the power steering tank somewhere else? Also I notice some black slime in my radiator reservoir, I have been told before with another car I have , that this slime is left over casting material. I think a power flush with a cleaning agent would help some of yours and mine over heating problems. [This message has been edited by Gary C (edited 09-27-2000).] |
Mike Krehel POA Site Supporter The World's Quickest Prowler (11.65 sec) and Administrating Kat Personal ScrapBook From:United States |
posted 09-27-2000 01:56 PM
JD, Have you also considered some sort of outside air intake for the supercharger? I would bet that we are losing somewhere around 10-15% power from the heat. ------------------ |
Mike Krehel POA Site Supporter The World's Quickest Prowler (11.65 sec) and Administrating Kat Personal ScrapBook From:United States |
posted 09-27-2000 01:58 PM
One more thought. I'm using distilled water and an additve called Water Wetter. ------------------ |
jd2ksilver POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Mt. View, CA |
posted 09-27-2000 02:12 PM
Mike I have run the car with the panels off to test, same issue. The car just heats up so quickly, but at the same time it cools quickly also. Its the aluminum block, fast heat, fast cool down. I have run water wetter for some time, same. BTW I am not talking about running hot at 3/4 or 7/8 on the gauge, I'm talking serious heat, and very quickly. I've learned to drive it and keep it somewhat cool, but if the car is run hard at outside temps of 75-80 or more, it will get hot. And I don't feel we are the lone ranger here, with two others developing radiators also, were just the noisy ones,, ------------------ |
Gary C POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:San Diego Area |
posted 09-27-2000 02:18 PM
What % water wetter are you guys using? Did you check for slime? [This message has been edited by Gary C (edited 09-27-2000).] |
jd2ksilver POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Mt. View, CA |
posted 09-27-2000 02:33 PM
Gary Had radiator flushed, running wetter according to manufactures specs. with distilled water, also tried coolant and wetter, which is what is recommended. As I said this is not a 5 - 10 degree issue here. I feel, after what I consider a good amount of test, talking with experts, that the next logical step is new and better radiator. I want to get a OK from builder before I get into detail about size, type, material, ect. and I hope you all can respect that. I will post all that I can when I can. BTW this is not a "for profit deal" this is to help all who need it. Also, I suspect this not just a supercharger issue, any horsepower rise, SC or nitrous, has to get rid of the heat created ------------------ [This message has been edited by jd2ksilver (edited 09-27-2000).] [This message has been edited by jd2ksilver (edited 09-27-2000).] |
Gary C POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:San Diego Area |
posted 09-27-2000 02:46 PM
JD, No problem here. I would feel the same way you do, I would be on a mission to fix the problem. I am the same way, helping our Prowler Friends for no profit or gain is more Hey, We can say," The Buck stops Here" |
jd2ksilver POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Mt. View, CA |
posted 09-27-2000 03:00 PM
Yep,
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CJ POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Rochester Hills, MI USA |
posted 09-27-2000 03:05 PM
Gary - aren't we Clever.....ley? |
Laddie Roussel >POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Hester, LA. USA |
posted 09-27-2000 03:27 PM
I have not experienced the problem to the extent JD & Dan have. About a month ago I experienced the 7/8 problem for the 1st time & only time. The outside temp was 105 or so & lots of humidity. On return trip home that night (75 miles) outside temp 85 - never got above 1/2 point). It depends a lot on outside temp. If above 90, I will run to the 3/4 mark and drops down back to center when fan turns on (this is with AC on). If outside temp is 80 or below, I never get above the center point on temp guage. At least not yet. I noticed, if I turn off the AC, the temp gauge will drop 1/8 or so. My local tech said that was normal because the AC condensor coil in front of radiator puts out so much heat. I've never turned on my heater to see what might happen to temp gauge. I'm running with distilled water (no water wetter). I don't think the overheating is just related to SC or nitrous... Some folks have experienced the problem & are stock... I'm for solving the problem. It could just be matter of time before we all experience the same problem. I'm for a larger capacity radiator, cool air intake, hot air escape. I have 1500 to 1600 miles on SC. |
Gary C POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:San Diego Area |
posted 09-27-2000 04:21 PM
Laddie, You are running, 100% water? You should use Water Wetter to lube the Pump and the seals. You will be sorry. No wonder yours doesn't overheat. CHEATER Anytime you run any anti-freeze your cooling will diminish. 100% distilled water is the best for cooling.
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Laddie Roussel >POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Hester, LA. USA |
posted 09-27-2000 04:43 PM
Gary, I meant distilled water instead of tap water. I'm using whatever the special Mopar coolant is for aluminun engine & distilled water. The recommended mix is 50/50. I think the mix in mine might be weighted a little bit toward the ethanoyl (sp?).
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dpena POA Site Supporter Administrating Kat Visit Dan's Prowler Excitement Personal ScrapBook From:San Jose Ca Santa Clara |
posted 09-27-2000 04:48 PM
Folks, I got picks and descriptions of what the anticipated plan is for the new radiator that is being put together for John Davies and I. John and I have put down the money and the radiator shop is working on it as we speak. I have been very busy at work lately and have not had time to sit down and work on my site. I got plenty of events and details to post so hopefully by the end of this week, I will have all my stuff updated on my site. For me, the heating thing happens whenever I race John. If I hold boost in the 4500 to 5500 rpm band, the temperature begins to rise. Outside temp does worsen the heating. Just about two weeks ago I got back from Irvine down south and had to come up the grapevine and I had to go very slow and try to keep myself out of boost. I managed to keep the heat down below 3/4. I love flooring the pedal to the floor whenever I can on my kitty. I did not buy my paxton just to limo it around. I want to floor it and not worry about heat. My Saleen does not even budge with heat. I can beat the heck out of it and the temperature does not move at all. It stays normal all day long. This is what I want for my Kitty. When I was in Irvine doing the cruise with the Saleen guys in my Prowler. I had to stop because these guys where on the pedal non stop. It was a cruise up into the mountains and in order to keep up with these guys I had to keep my kitty in boost up the hill. Bad news for me because I found myself turning on the heating up full blast. I was cooking myself a medium rare. Not fun at all.. Will try to post the radiator details tonight but can't promise it. Later.... ------------------ [This message has been edited by dpena (edited 09-27-2000).] |
Larry Lord Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Colton, CA |
posted 09-27-2000 08:02 PM
Just a thought,,, Laddie you may never stay in the higher boost ranges for any length of time . Louisiana is much more flat and level than California. It really goes without saying,,,Horsepower = Heat,,,the problem is just in how it's dealt with. The only option is to either not create the heat or to effectively dissipate it. ------------------ |
Gary C POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:San Diego Area |
posted 09-27-2000 08:35 PM
Also, with only 9 quarts of cooling doesn't help, maybe a five or six row radiator will help some. Keep us up to date on the Radiator deal,please. |
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