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Tim
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From:Baldwinsville, New York
Registered: Jul 2000
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posted 07-02-2000 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tim     send a private message to Tim   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Tim
As a web geek who has created and sold a web site to the majors in 2 years, I have watched this Prowler Club.

I wondered why I paid. Theres nothing useful for the members and I have yet to receive my kit.

The so called deals are a crock. I called and inquired about items and was fed the same prices before they knew who referred me.

Except for a bad link email I sent, they usually dont respond to email. Their web skills seem to be lacking, from the uncomfortable design to the poorly laid out message board. Yet when I offered to help them tweak the board , I was ignored.

Take a look at http://board.3dfiles.com/

Note how you can tell where everyone is from, private messaging, voice\chat link, custom user statuses, spell checking and TONS more. Most of this requires hacking of the scripts themselves and is not difficult. I would also like to offer my services here if you need help getting this forum to kick ass. In one week, people would come here over there just for the features alone. Oh, none of these hacks cost anything and neither would my help. I considered doing this myself because I knew I could do it better. I offer my services because I would like to be a part of a better community then what we currently have.

Let me know via email or here if I can be of assitance.

PPC WebGuy
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posted 07-02-2000 11:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PPC WebGuy     send a private message to PPC WebGuy   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by PPC WebGuy
Tim,
I was very disappointed and surprised when a PPC member e-mailed me a copy of this post. I feel that the comments “Their web skills seem to be lacking, from the uncomfortable design to the poorly laid out message board. Yet when I offered to help them tweak the board, I was ignored.” were a personal attack on myself, uncalled for and unprofessional. I have been involved in three (one is a national franchise so I do know about the big boys) very successful customer service oriented business and a common practice between my competitors is not to bad mouth another in the field, no matter what our personal feelings are it is simply not professional.

The “poorly laid out message board” appears to be the same as this one and the one on the link that you sent me so I don’t understand where you are going with that.

As for my web skills lacking I have successfully worked on over 60 web sites including the realrod.com site and have only heard praise from owners and customers alike.

Example:
Topic: Thanks, JimWebGuy!

TunaMember posted 06-19-2000 11:59PM
Some of you may have an idea what it takes to keep a website up and running - so you can appreciate what a job it is to keep an active website like this going - Thanks again, Jim WebGuy!

GaryCMember posted 06-20-2000 02:06 AM
Me too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thax

dpenaMember posted 06-20-2000 09:34PM
In agreement!! Lots of time, creativity and patience! Thanks Jim "WebGuy"!


The PPC web site is not my “fulltime job” and I am limited to the amount of time I can dedicate to it but I have always attempted to do my best and work all night if need be one time leaving my family during vacation to try and fix a problem with the discussion forum. I now ask my self for what!

Your e-mails have not been ignored, as you noted you received a reply thanking you for the tip on the bad link, which is on my list to be fixed. Your e-mail offering help with upgrading the discussion forum was very much welcomed due to my time restrictions. I believe this e-mail was received by me on Thursday June 29th you have not been responded to yet for two reasons. Number one: I am not at liberty to make changes to the web site without talking to someone about it. I visited the link you sent me and put it on my list of things to bring up during my next meeting. The second reason is that I closed my shop for the holiday weekend and was hoping not to have to work during it but I guess that idea failed.

If you have a problem with the PPC or a PPC official that is between you and them DO NOT involve or take it out on me!

Jim

Larry Lord


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From:Colton, CA
Registered: Jul 2000
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posted 07-02-2000 11:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Larry Lord     send a private message to Larry Lord   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Larry Lord
I will also stand behind Jim the web guy.
I have the utmost respect for him and the work that he has done for the PPC website. Jim has always been prompt in answering any questions that I may have and has also been very helpful to anyone that I had contact him. Is Jimmy the BEST? I don't know! But I do know that he has always done his best for me!
Tim
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From:Baldwinsville, New York
Registered: Jul 2000
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posted 07-03-2000 12:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tim     send a private message to Tim   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Tim
Well, since your sharing the email with everyone, here was my response. As some local rod enthusiasts told me (a little late) "Dont join any of these clubs" Now, I know why. I guess payment in full means you get treated like crap and cant complain about it. My mistake. I ask to be removed from your Prowler Club. You have not delivered on what you promised and I expect a refund on my VISA next month for the time remaining.

"Jim,
Well, it may not be your full time job, but you represent yourself as a business, a club. The people there want to be involved, to them this is not a business. Yet, you give them no incentive. My email about the link was answered, yet one would think a courtesy email would have been warranted when someone ask for help. I know people who have designed 60 websites, that means nothing to me. The layout is cluttered, mainly with ads to the same overpriced items you can buy whether a member or not. I know, I have called and ordered some things and the prices are the same. Some asked me where I heard of them and I told them. As far as I know, the only deal there is you getting paid for the sale or clicks. If not, then why would you clutter a page with ads? Like others in the forum, I would have expected my kit, yet nothing comes. No email to let me know, nothing. If I recall, I even had to ask for my password.

After 60 sites, you would think you would show some service or at least deliver on what you promise. In the meantime, I would like a refund of my remaining time in the club. There is nothing worthwhile in the members section and I am not chasing people around to get what I pay for. Joining this "club" was a mistake.

I will look for the refund on my next visa statement."

Tim
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From:Baldwinsville, New York
Registered: Jul 2000
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posted 07-03-2000 12:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tim     send a private message to Tim   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Tim
Quick apology is warranted. I ASSUMED (you know what you get) that Jim was the webmaster and probably ran it. Having designed websites, I realize that you are forced to do what your asked and that can make for a bad layout if your not given some freedom. Probably why I refuse to design anymore ;)

Again, JIM, as I stated in email, I apologize for it all landing on you, that was not my intent.

Guess to get a refund, I have to start again and find the man.

Looking forward to talking to you voice tommorow.

As for everyone else here, I also hope you dont think I am some sort of jerk. I have watched the goings on since I joined and it has been building. I hope you all will allow me this one vent :)

Gary C


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From:San Diego Area
Registered: Jul 2000
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posted 07-03-2000 12:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gary C     send a private message to Gary C   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Gary C
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This message has been edited by Gary C on 12-09-2004 at 07:12 PM

PPC WebGuy
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posted 07-03-2000 01:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PPC WebGuy     send a private message to PPC WebGuy   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by PPC WebGuy
Thank you Larry and to answer the question, NO I am not nor have I ever claimed to be the best. I have however, like you, always tried to do my best for the PPC members. I added the Web Guy e-mail address as a curtsey to help members having problems with the site. It has now been removed so I can assure my self that I will no longer be attacked.

Tim, I received your apology, thank you. I would just like to remark about me sharing the email with everyone. I strongly believe that these types of matters should be dealt with one-on-one and NOT in a public forum BUT I also believe that if someone posts a remark about anyone in public, that person has a right to respond to it in public. That was my intention. Had you privately e-mailed me and told me I sucked I would have privately e-mailed you back and said, no I don't!

Jim

Laddie Roussel





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From:Hester, LA. USA
Registered: Jul 2000
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posted 07-03-2000 06:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Laddie Roussel     send a private message to Laddie Roussel   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Laddie Roussel
I agree with Gary C. I'm in on the group HUG.
I'll always have a HUG for Jim "the web guy". I appreciate all the help he provided me whenever I needed it...

Some jobs are "Thankless Jobs" Someone will have to maintain this site and it will require a lot of time, sweat & personal investment. I want to say Thanks up front for all the behind the scenes work that will be required to keep this up & running. Let's go Prowlin....

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